Tuesday, November 27, 2007

Elijah- > Elisha-> John the Baptist=? The Second Witness

work in progress..

Elijah is the figure of the second witness.
He represents more than the great prophet,
because, as every Christian knows, the
LORD refers to his flesh and blood cousin
John the Baptist as the second coming of

This is the same fetus who jumped in
his mother's womb when Aunt Miriam,
aka Mary, greeted his mother, Elizabeth.
Good thing they didn't have abortion
back then. Too bad we're going to
face judgment for our murder.

John the Baptist is Elijah. This is always

Reincarnation? Symbolic ministry? Allegory?

Elijah, the second witness, comes 3 times:


1Ki 17:1
And Elijah the Tishbite, [who was] of the
inhabitants of Gilead, said unto Ahab, [As]
the LORD God of Israel liveth, before whom I
stand, there shall not be dew nor rain these years,
but according to my word.

First Resurrection:

1Ki 17:22 And the LORD heard the voice of Elijah;
and the soul of the child came into him
again, and he revived.
1Ki 17:23 And Elijah took the child, and brought him
down out of the chamber into the house,
and delivered him unto his mother: and
Elijah said, See, thy son liveth.

2Ki 2:12 And Elisha saw [it], and he cried,
My father, my father, the chariot of Israel,
and the horsemen thereof. And he saw him no
more: and he took hold of his own clothes,
rent them in two pieces.
2Ki 2:14 And he took the mantle of Elijah that fell
from him, and smote the waters, and said
Where [is] the LORD God of Elijah? and
when he also had smitten the waters, they
parted hither and thither: and Elisha went over.
2Ki 2:15 And when the sons of the prophets which [were]
to view at Jericho saw him, they said, The spirit
of Elijah doth rest on Elisha. And they came to meet
him, and bowed themselves to the ground before him.

Elijah is taken up in the chariot. The two
witnesses of the Apocalypse coincide with another
kind of resurrection and heavenly flight.

This can certainly coincide with the description
of the cubic city of God coming down, and
the believers being raptured or beamed up.

It is unequivocally the way the two witnesses

There seems to be a precept and prophecy
that comes full circle...

Elijah and Enoch never died. They
were translated. We can only speculate
on this, but, I like to call it being "beamed up"
because that's what makes sense to my
mortal mind. However, the closer we
get, the clearer our understanding will
become. Errors that I have now will
be corrected. I like to throw around
how I think Gore is the false prophet,
but, that doesn't mean he literally is.
To me he is a type of false prophet,
so that's who I call him in my own
studies and journal.

I'm fallible, for sure, but, to grow, I
need to express my views, as radical
as they come out. It's by speaking and
writing about these things which helps
to clarify my own beliefs and correct
my own errors. I'd hate for anyone
to take my thoughts as being anything
more than my opinion...

I do believe that the last generation of
believers will be raptured, beamed up,
and taken into the chariot of heaven,
like Enoch and Elijah, and the Two
Witnesses. So, are they, ( we?) the
two witnesses? Or are the originals
coming back?

Gen 5:23 And all the days of Enoch were three
hundred sixty and five years:
Gen 5:24 And Enoch walked with God: and he
[was] not; for God took him.


Rev 11:11And after three days and an half
the Spirit of life from God entered
into them, and they stood upon
their feet; and great fear fell upon
them which saw them.

Rev 11:12
And they heard a great voice
from heaven saying unto them,
Come up hither. And they ascended
up to heaven in a cloud; and their
enemies beheld them.

Elijah's ministry was unique,
like John the Baptist's. Elijah
prepared the way for Elisha,
who actually possessed more
Christ-like qualities.

The "first witness" Moses,
prepared the way for Joshua=
While Moses gave the LAW
and led the Israelites into
the Promised Land, it was
Joshua who ruled and led
them in. This is literal allegory,
with a window into the final
events of prophecy with the
last witnesses. The final
Moses will also lead the
way to New Jerusalem,
coming from heaven, and
the Kingdom of Christ, when
the LORD reigns over all
nations, and the Earth is
redeemed, and also un-polluted.

The reference to the latter days
reaches us where we literally
live because of the same kinds
of spiritual poverty we face.
Although we are ostensibly
affluent in the West, and call
ourselves Jews and Christians,
we practice Babylonian and
other pagan mystery religions
in the form of the Talmud's
superstitious rituals and
kabalistic errors, or Christmas
and the false Sabbath.

Not until both Jews and Christians
obey the LAW Moses received, will
there be peace. That is when the
kingdom will begin, but, the
world will be ravaged to get

It is in Elijah and Elisha's
ministry when the division
of the fish and loaves first
happened, to be followed
by Christ. Of course, this
has profound spiritual

Our spirituality is woven with
his ministry, and Elisha is an
example of what a true disciple
is endowed with by God. Like
some of the Apostles, like Peter,
who did even more astonishing
feats than Christ did, Elisha stunned
the world with his miracles and
demonstration of YHWH's

How is that power associated
with the mantle? It is clear that
it is not in the mantle but in
faith, and in God's will. Elijah
tells Elisha that if God allows
his eyes to behold the chariot
of heaven, then the ministry
will be granted to him, and
so it was.

John the Baptist was the voice
in the wilderness who baptised
the children of Israel to prepare
for the LORD's day.

Elijah was taken up in the chariot,
and John was beheaded. What will
happen to the tribulation saints of
the 2 witnesses? They will be beheaded
for their testimony. Who is beheading
Christians today? The devil in Islamo-fascist
cults are beheading Christian families, even
children. It will be much worse soon.
We're watching a man who appeared
from nowhere, with an Islamic name,
Barak Obama, who entered the senate
not to serve the state, but, to campaign
as the shill for something unknown...

How far fetched is it that an Islamic-named
unknown handsome African American,
with an unknown agenda, can and will
be used by that unknown agency and force?

Because he's black, it's too un-PC to
challenge him, or ask openly where the heck
he came from. Besides, Oprah is
for him, and George Clooney says he's
a rock star.

The end is near.

We're not that far away from anarchy
and extremist civil war in the USA.
We're not far away from the mark
of the beast, the identity chip, and
we're being incorporated into a
global unity, with nations who
slaughter children, imprison and
enslave children and women,
beheading Christian martyrs
every day. The days are coming
when the mention of Christ will
be forbidden here in America
with the way things are going,
and with an unknown entity
who sprung on the political
scene, now sweeping the polls,
with a disturbingly blatant
Islamic name....

What do we really know about the
ones controlling this world, pulling
the strings, determining our
slave-masters, their puppets?

We have to abandon our notions
about this world, and be like
Elijah and Elisha, like John the
Baptist, and put on the armor
of God, the rags of repentence
and contrition, to serve a holy
master who we have abandoned
in our pride.

We have to associate with these
two witnesses, because it is
through their example which is
given to us, to teach and lead
us in the direction that we
need to go to follow Christ.

We cannot follow Christ with
materialism and greed, lust
of wealth, the flesh, or material
things. There are many spiritual
rich people, but, material things
are an obstacle. That is why
our LORD told the Apostles
and disciples to take two
sets of clothing, and abandon
the material world to preach
salvation. The Apostles are
a special dispensation, and
we are not them, but, we
are also called in our generation
to partake in the events that
the Apostles longed for. In that
sense, we are as blessed as they
were and are. In this sense,
the Spirit of God will return
in force, in the form of the
the testimony of Christ that
will stun the world.

The leaders of this world are
all in a confederation of conspiracy.
There is no way to undo this, and
it is truly Caesar's world for the
time. But, the time is coming
when the world will be the LORD's
as He vowed.

It is done. It has happened in that
place beyond time/space and now
we are becoming aligned to the
ultimate events in the heavenly
matrix of God's computation
and program and PLAN.

When you see the odious false prophet,
Al Gore, standing next to Bush,
isn't it obvious that they are
all in league? All their secrets
and societies, their Skull and Crossbones,
Bohemian Club, Club of Rome, Bildenberg
brothers and New World Order make
them brothers and some are apostles
of the devil.

The signs are everywhere. It must
be the season of the witch. But, it
will soon be the dawn of holiness.
The sun will rise on a new day
on this planet, and like Moses
leading his people to the holy land,
we will likewise inherit an unpolluted
land. First, all spiritual pollution will
be ablated. Then the land will be healed.

When that hypocritical green-man,
Al Gore, rants about pollution, but
says NOTHING about the waste
of cutting down millions of trees
to decorate in an obscene pagan
ritualistic way, to conduct an orgy of
eating and luxurious selfish spending,
having the hubris to call it Christan,
what does that really tell us?
That the "green" movement is all crap.

If anyone of those hypocritical
drones cared about the
environment, they'd start at
saving the trees, senselessly
and wastefully cut down to
conduct their pagan rituals.

Think of the most ungodly,
and antichristian person
you know, and see how much they
love Christmas. It's an evil holiday,
and the cutting down of trees is
an abomination.

So, it's coming. It's coming faster
than anyone can imagine, and
it's up to us to speak out, not
be silent.

Christ freaked out and
turned over the tables of the
corrupt merchants in the temple,
calling them robbers and thieves
in the house of the LORD. It
would have the same impact
as His beholding the Christmas
obscenities, greed, indulgences
and hypocrisy.

Especially egregious, to say the
LEAST, is the obscene and ritualistic
destruction and desecration of evergreen
trees, obscenely cut down and
decked with silver and gold.
Jeremiah 10 warns the Israelites
about the pagan tree worship
Jer 10:3
For the customs of the people
[are] vain: for [one] cutteth
a tree out of the forest, the
work of the hands of the
workman, with the axe.

Jer 10:4
They deck it with silver and
with gold; they fasten it with
nails and with hammers, that
it move not.

Elijah and Elisha lived in truly unholy
times, like we do. Every last priest in
their religion was corrupt. Every last
leader was in cahoots and evil, like they
are now. They were ruled by the influence
of the mystery religion of Ishtar. They
are still ruled by this same cult.

This error will be cleansed, and woe
to the Christian caught with a dead
tree and greed and obscenities, who
must face YHWH. There will be
gnashing of teeth.

They were voices in the wilderness
because the temple and prophets were corrupt
and ruined by traditions of paganism,
like Christmas in our day.

Elijah and Elisha were mocked
and confronted a world leadership
wholly corrupt, but, they were
holy and could not be defeated.

Elijah controlled the weather
through faith and prayer. God
demonstrated his power through

This will happen again in the
end times with the two witnesses.
They will speak and it will stop
the rain and winds, or vica versa.

They will be the harbingers of
violent weather, to punish the
corrupters of Earth, who pollute
the Earth and cut down the trees.

Elisha, Elijah's disciple/son, inherited his *mantle* and
a double-portion of "spirit" which is seen by the mighty
works he did, compared to Elijah. The twice portion is
seen as he smote the waters, like Moses, and the sea
parted, and resurrected another widow's son, this
time, the resurrection outlined in much more detail...
2Ki 4:32 And when Elisha was come into the house,
behold, the child was dead, [and] laid upon his bed.
2Ki 4:33He went in therefore, and shut \
the door upon them twain, and prayed unto
the LORD.

2Ki 4:34 And he went up, and lay upon
the child, and put his mouth upon his mouth,
and his eyes upon his eyes, and his hands upon
his hands: and he stretched himself upon the child;
and the flesh of the child waxed warm.

On the first day of class, we were given one sheet,
laid out on our desks. It was 2 Kings Chapter 4,
and we were solemnly instructed to take it in.
It had a chilling effect on me, and I became all
goose flesh , realising that the first resurrection
and ACLS instruction was given in the Old
Testament, and even more meaningfully, was
how the LORD could one day use me to not only
live faithfully, but resuscitate.

Since that day, I saw many die from disease
and trauma, but, I also was blessed to feel
life enter the bodies of those who died. There's
nothing else like it. There were a few times
when my own two hands were the same
instruments of God as Elisha's were 3,000
years ago.

One graveyard shift, the chaotic full moon
and holiday pandemic crush, meant that
there was no one who responded to the
code blue I called when a lady who had
fainting spells (vagaled) went flat line
on me as I was doing her ekg. No pulse,
and no breathing. I shouted for help from
the ER room, but, they were all occupied
in simultaneous trauma and codes.
I flattened the bed, and I felt something
take over as I lifted my arms and before
I could think about it, I pounded my
tw0 handed fist on her sternum, only
to feel life enter her and her rhythm
come back. I turned up her oxygen
as she came to life, and the ER doctor
finally got in. I told him what happened,
and the nurse sardonically muttered,
"yea, she probably lost an EKG lead"
(which would cause a flat line artifact.)

However, her rhythms were caught on
tape, along with her return to pulse.

I was shaken up, not only because of
the adrenalin pouring into my system,
but, from feeling that life force, that
energy that some call "Ki" or "chi"
or even "chai"... It's real. It's from
God. I felt so humble to have been
the instrument to deliver life, like
Elijah and Elisha.

I had that experience a few times
in resuscitation, but, that one
was extra special.

What am I to be used in any way
as a vehicle for God's Holy Spirit
to deliver his message, and His
LIFE? This is what is so spectacular
about being a worshipper of Christ,
that as unworthy as we are, we
are important, and part of His

Who is Elijah and who is Elisha,
and who is John the Baptist, and
who is the second witness?

Could the second witness be literal,
or figurative for the believer?

I want to study this over the next
few days, as I've done in the past,
but, it's always good to go back
over these vital passages, taking
a fresh look, questioning it in
new ways.

I've been raised in the generation
who believe the 2 witnesses are
the great prophets of the tribulation
era. This is the pre-tribulation
doctrine of re-redemption to
Israel, for when the Sacred Cube
returns, and when we are raptured
or beamed up, the survivors will
take up the mantle we leave, and
the 2 great prophets, the 2 lamps
by the LORD, Moses and Elijah,
will be there to lead them and to
punish the world.

How will they punish the world?
They have the power to hold back
the rain, the wind, like in Elijah's
challenge to the false prophets.

In the latter days, with the
seven vials of indignation, there
is far more reaching suffering,
so terrible that when the two
witnesses are finally slaughtered,
they are shown to the world
(on television) and laid out for
three days. It sounds like it
may be during Christmas,
and instead of presents
in the pretense of Christ's
birth, the hypocritical Antichrist
Christmas loving world will
be giving gifts because they
are rid of the two great

Until the third day....

Rev 11:3
And I will give [power] unto
my two witnesses, and they
shall prophesy a thousand
two hundred [and] threescore
days, clothed in sackcloth.

Rev 11:5
And if any man will hurt
them, fire proceedeth out
of their mouth, and devoureth
their enemies: and if any man
will hurt them, he must in this
manner be killed.

Rev 11:6
These have power to shut
heaven, that it rain not in the
days of their prophecy: and have
power over waters to turn them
to blood, and to smite the earth
with all plagues, as often as they

Rev 11:7And when they shall have finished
their testimony, the beast that
ascendeth out of the bottomless
pit shall make war against them,
and shall overcome them, and
kill them.

Rev 11:8
And their dead bodies [shall lie]
in the street of the great city,
which spiritually is called Sodom
and Egypt, where also our Lord
was crucified.

Why is Jerusalem called Sodom, Egypt?
It's because Jerusalem is an abomination
today. There is prohibition of the true
God and Messiah, YHWH and Yehoshua
and it is unclean and unholy.

While it appears as if Jerusalem is
the Holy Land, it is the unholiest
place on Earth right now for it's
abandonment of the faith, the LAW
and rejection of the Light of the world,
Jesus Christ, the Savior.

It is in a tug of war between an
antichrist state, of the Jews, and
an antichrist state of the Arabs.
The token Christianity there
isn't enough to light a candle.

All blasphemers and those
who corrupt the Holy land
will be destroyed. Good try Bush,
but there can be no peace to the
godless city of Jerusalem and that
is where the two prophets will
preach, like John the Baptist,
to prepare for the coming of

They will be like Moses, leading
the flock, to repentence and
to instruction, to put away
childish and pagan toys of
vanity and come back to
the love of YHWH and
follow Christ, our King.

They will prepare the way for the LAW,
the LIGHT, and Christ's return.

Rev 11:9
And they of the people and
kindreds and tongues and
nations shall see their dead
bodies three days and an half,
and shall not suffer their dead
bodies to be put in graves.
They preach for 3 1/2 years in Jerusalem
and are laid out for 3 1/2 days. This obviously
is part of symbolism for a week since 3.5 and
3.5 equals 7.

A day in the symbolism in the Bible can
mean anything from 24 hours to 1000 years.
There can well be layered symbolism in the
Two Witnesses, but, the final superficial
meaning is literal.

The two may be literally Moses and Elijah.
The two may be like Joshua and Elisha,
inheritors of greater strength to Moses
and Elijah, which gives the clue that these
positions are ministerial and passed on
to the next anointed for that ministry.

The two may also broadly refer to the
two camps of believers, the ones who
will be taken up like Elijah was, to the
"chariot of heaven," to wait out the
indignation of plagues and torments,
and the tribulation saints, those whose
testimony will torture the antichristian
world, and who will be beheaded by
the Islamic and Christ-hating beast,
the atheists, agnostic secular jew,
and secular false pagan-worshipping
christian, who believe themselves
to be prosperous and saved.

It is all coming down in the end.

Rev 11:10
And they that dwell upon the
earth shall rejoice over them,
and make merry, and shall send
gifts one to another; because
these two prophets tormented
them that dwelt on the earth.

Merry Christmas.

Rev 11:14
The second woe is past;
[and], behold, the third
woe cometh quickly

Rev 11:15And the seventh angel sounded;
and there were great voices in
heaven, saying, The kingdoms
of this world are become
[the kingdoms] of our Lord,
and of his Christ; and he shall
reign for ever and ever.

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